Theory...

I think that Old Man Ugly could be Xehanort's father.

I've thought of that for awhile, but never thought it went anywhere.

I don't know if it'll go anywhere now. Heh.

Birth By Sleep

You know, I never mentioned much of anything about Birth By Sleep.

It seems that Aqua somehow disappeared. I guess they're leaving her as a surprise. I know she was one of Ven's closest friends, so I doubt she'd be a minor character.

Terra/Ven will obviously be the new Axel/Roxas. GAH.

And judging from the "Please erase me" part, it seems that my previous theory on Ven/Roxas still stands. For those who forgot, my theory was that Sora met/knew Ven at one time, and when he became a Heartless, "Roxas" was born out of Sora's memories of Ven. Sora was probably supposed to forget all about Ven, but it seems like he never did. Once Roxas "merged" back with Sora as a "shadow self", he simply became just another part of Sora rather than simply memories of Ven.

Where would Ven be though? If it's called "Birth By Sleep", then it might mean that Sora's abilities as a keyblade wielder(shown in the first Kingdom Hearts), woke up once Ven was "frozen", or "put to sleep" by Old Man Ugly. Hell, he might even be Sora's older brother.

Right now, it's just a bunch of who on earth knows?

Prequel?

According to Kh-Insider, rumors have just been popping all over the place about the new Kingdom Hearts game. Right now, being a "prequel" seems to be a popular guess.

Okay, I can buy that, but a prequel of what, exactly? Of Kingdom Hearts the Original? I mean Pre-Sora PERIOD. Between Chain of Memories and KH2? The Fall of Hallow Bastion? Many people claim that it's the year between Sora being asleep and Roxas being in the Organization, and I think that makes the most sense.

Still, it could be just about anything, really. How about the "Elders" of the Organization? How did they do the things they did? The Knights? Where did they come from, and who were they fighting? Maybe before all of that? Ansem the Wise?

It'll be awhile before anyone knows, I'm sure, but I think that it would end up being a prequel to Kingdom Hearts 2 since Axel/Roxas is so insanely popular.

Ugly Old Man

Everytime I see that "old man" in the secret ending pictures, I think "boy, you shore is UGLY!!" AHAHAHA! Yea, dumb I know.

One of the maintainers of KH Insider mentioned that his outfit is exactly the same as "Ansem's". Uh-huh. Coincidence?

I haven't the foggiest. I'm thinking that the "Old Man" was "Renoath" or "Another" or whatever, and his power was somehow like that of a god, so when he lost his Heart, he became "Xehanort" and the being by his side was his "Heartless". During the experiments, he may have regained his memory somehow, and that would explain why the outfits were identical. Only thing is that, no one knows that he regained his memories because he had PLANZ involving both himself ("Ansem") and his Nobody "Xemnas". Or, rather, they had the same plans. Or something. Bleh, I don't know. This doesn't even make any sense.

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I also think that ugly old man is Xehanort's father. The "being" beside him is his son, or replica of his son(yea right), and he is defeated and has no memories of the fight. The father disappears somewhere, leaving his son under the care of Ansem the Wise, and his son only remembers being "Xehanort", and despite the loss of memories, he knows that he must fight his father's battles or something like that.

Bleagh. Course the Old Man could also be "Renoath", who lost his Heart and became "Xehanort", but because he was so damned powerful, he really only lost half his Heart. Then Xehanort lost the remainder and became "Ansem/Xemnas".

Whatever. This is one of those things that will be blabbed out for a long time, I'm sure.

All I know is that Old Man is UGLY. Heh.

Oh dear

Missed another day. I R getting lazy, but it's not like I intend to make a habit of it.

Anyway, kh-vids.net has some news that I thought proved interesting(they in turn got it from kh-2.net), or at least would have if it already weren't old news to some people.

With this new KH game, I'm willing to bet that it'll be on a handheld of some kind. I'm hoping for the PSP since it has plenty of great games on it as it is and seems to remain ahead of any other handhelds.

"Nomura: That's right. My own feelings are that I would like to give Sora a break from large adventures for a little while. So I'm thinking of making the next game's story focus on other characters."

He said SORA, but never mentioned Riku or Kairi, but even they(well, sort of in Kairi's case) had moments in the sun. Some speculate that it could be Axel/Roxas(yea, they wish) because there was one year between COM and Sora's awakening. Could be the Knights.

"Nomura: Well, I need to start with the story depicted in a Birth by Sleep. Aside from that, there's the story of how the King found his keyblade in the world of darkness and other things like that. Myself, one of the things I most want to do is to give Roxas more of a role to play. I think it would be interesting to flesh out more of the year he spent between his birth and disappearance. Or making Riku the main character, and writing about his desperate fight while Sora was asleep, and things like that. You get the impression that Riku summoned Roxas to a place of shadows, and that Riku is a master of shadows, so I would like to give him more exploration in the game."

Uh-huh. Looks like I had the right idea. Riku vs. Roxas expanded. Figures as such a fight couldn't have been initiated overnight.

Beyond that is game system talk. I still say PSP, but COM WAS on the GBA, so who really knows? Except that the PSP came out after that. Heh. I guess I'm just hoping it's the PSP.

Aqua/Ven, Demyx

Do I think that Aqua/Ven are lovers?

No, I don't think they are. Clearly close friends, or brother/sister sort, but I doubt they were lovers. Then again, there's still not much known about them, so who knows?

I' ve always wondered what Xemnas wanted with her though. I did see the scene of him in Hollow Bastion, and while I don't know what he said, it's clear that he was talking to her. It took place while Sora was talking to Mickey and right before the battle with Demyx.

Aqua represents Water. So does Demyx and he also controls it. Goofy is knocked out after Demyx is defeated and Sora, of course, freaks out, but is forced to leave. What happened in the meantime? What happened while Sora cried out to Goofy? I've said to before and I've said it again, things like that don't happen in stories for no good reason. We already know that the situation is dangerous, so there had to be another reason. Some KH fans theorize that it was to prevent Roxas from awakening after Demyx's death. Others? Well, I don't know since it's not often talked about.

Demyx is the "center" of it all, so to speak. I mean, to me, the game is divided into "Before Demyx" and "After Demyx". The defining battle of the game(1000 Heartless), Xemnas's appearance and Sora's first meeting with Axel since COM happened AFTER Demyx.

But, why would Xemnas speak with Aqua BEFORE the fight with Demyx? What did he want with her? I refuse to believe that Demyx was just a "distraction", especially considering that the conversation with Aqua took place right "Before Demyx".

I just want to believe that Demyx was more than just minor "comic relief".

Kairi's escape

Speaking of the Kairi theory, KH Insider had a forum thread about how Kairi may have escaped. Some of them chose a more humorous theory: She kicked him in the nads. Bless their hearts. However, some cite the novels in saying that Saix beat the tar out of Axel and nabbed Kairi himself.

Hmmm...at face value, that makes some sense, and I'm sure that Vexen, Zexion, AND Saix fans would have just LOVED that. However, it would only make sense, BEFORE Sora reached Betwixt and Between. However, Saix encountered Sora after the battle of 1,000 Heartless and well before B/B. At that time, Axel looked perfectly fine(in more ways than one, huuuur), so he couldn't have been beaten then. Unless, Saix was so sure that he would get Kairi that he made it sound like he already had her.

Axel encounters Sora, but Kairi is somewhere else, Saix catches Axel and chases him. When Saix catches up to Axel, he takes Kairi, leaving Axel to die. That would explain why Axel sacrificed himself for Sora--he was already dying, so he decided to go on his terms(which is very Axel).


Blagh. I like my truck theory better. The thing is, the Saix beating Axel only comes from the novel, so it isn't "game canon". Because, think about it, wouldn't something like that be a sight to behold for some of the fans? You can bet that some people would have LOVED it, while Axel fans would be dying.

I just think that Kairi got away before Hollow Bastion(she kicked him in the nads or something), Saix gets her, Axel goes to Sora, Saix finds him, ??????, Sora finds Axel again, Axel dies.

Blafg, I guess we'll never really know since not everyone is going to read the novel/manga. I guess this is where "using your imagination" comes in.

Personally, I've always wondered why Mickey gets in front of Sora before the fight with Demyx.

Manga Manga and Wrecked Truck

Yes, I'm aware of Chapter 14 Manga for KH2. Check kh_press on livejournal as I'm too lazy to link. Anyway, I'm not understanding why people seem to think it's "canon". I know that Nomura looks at the script, but to me, it's just a "crack" version of the game itself. Of, "Manga Canon", which would be like Yu-Gi-Oh.

And of course Demyx is eating chips, he's all that and a bag of chips. I bet it's sour cream/onion. Yum!

As for Axel and Namine, yea it figures he'd criticize her sewing since Axel always struck me as the sort who made/fixed most of his own clothes. I don't know why. I just always thought he would. I'm still kind of confused as to when exactly he leaves the Organization. I knew he did, but never really when.

Before playing the game, I thought he had left BEFORE fighting Roxas, and had his own group. Then I thought that he left after fighting Roxas the second, and THEN I thought he left after Demyx's death or soon after. Blagh. I also thought that he spent time away from the Org at first and then returned only to be told to take Kairi, and Axel "obeyed" (yea right), but was playing double agent. Oh sure, do as he's told, but keep Kairi for himself(or for Namine , really, since it would have benefited her too). Didn't work out though as Saix is like the Ultimate Foil for Axel. I have a theory on what happened too. It involves the wrecked truck that is symbolism for me.

Axel takes Kairi back to the City, but knows that he can't port through there because he'd get caught. He's not going to take Kairi to the Castle, instead, he wants to take her elsewhere(to Namine or just elsewhere period, so he could use her for his mean plans of getting Roxas *chu chu chu* back). So, he puts her in the truck, planning on driving her to the area where he can port without being seen by other members or Heartless. Kairi is shocked and well:

Kairi: Can you even drive this thing?
Axel: I can drive anything.

And yea, he can, actually. At least I'd like to think so. He drives through the city, but towards the memory sky scraper, Saix appears. Axel, being the bad ass that he is, floors it, and a horrified Kairi tries to stop him by grabbing the wheel and the truck ends up tipping over. Kairi crawls out, making sure to step on Axel along the way, and opens the back of the truck to get Pluto. As she tries to run, Saix nabs her and takes her to the Castle. Alone, Axel gets the hell out of dodge, and is more stunned than anything.

See, Axel prides himself on having control. When he drives, he sees it as a form of powerful control(this is why kinks like pedal pumping and car/driving scenes are so popular), and has never lost it. In Chain of Memories, he has complete control. He's firmly behind the wheel, he shifts smoothly, with no lurching, and he never stalls. Every turn is perfect, acceleration is flawless, and no one dares get in his way(he brakes for no one). In Kingdom Hearts two, the gears stick, the clutch doesn't seem to work properly, and even if the vehicle is fine, Axel somehow spins out of control anyway. In the case of the truck, Kairi is the one who grabs the wheel and causes the wreck.

One other version of this theory is that Saix is the one who causes Axel to lose control. Axel tries to run him over, but Saix vanishes, causing him to slam on the brake and overcompensate. Kairi takes advantage of the situation, by hopping out of the truck, and saving Pluto, but leaving Axel because she owes him nothing.

The point is that the wreck is what Axel himself becomes because of his desperation to see Roxas just one more time.


To be honest though, I'm still not sure if he kidnapped Kairi on his own accord or if he really was under Orders by the Org. I still haven't gone through the Final mix as I'm waiting for the subs of Basement Chain of Memories. I guess it doesn't matter, because it's obvious that he wanted to use Kairi for his own purposes. Question is, if the truck theory proves to be right, who would cause Axel's loss of control? Did it start with Axel thinking that he rules the world because he brought a Castle to it's knees? Did it start with Roxas leaving the Organization? Was it Kairi who grabbed the wheel? Or was it the very presence of Saix, Axel's most bitter enemy, who caused Axel to step on it without thinking, and then in a split second tried and failed to regain control? All the above maybe? Knowing Axel, it probably was.

I don't think we'll ever know, but it's interesting to think about if you like the idea of Axel behind the wheel or a vehicle. Seems that much of the fandom doesn't though because they think he'd be scary.

Dis isn't going away

Now KH Insider is doing it, and the board topic is over eight pages long. Yikes. The theory there is that a "Dis Soul" is just the body. So, if someone's Heartless is still around, but the "Nobody" is killed, then the body is all that remains. So, it's someone who not only doesn't have a Heart, but also doesn't have a Soul. Sounds like a cleric from Equilibrium to me or a robot. However, the OP claimed that he got the translation wrong, so it doesn't look like that's the case.

I would think that a body without a Soul or a Heart would be boring as hell. Not much for characterization there unless they're Kos-Mos of Xenosaga fame.

The DiZ theory was also rebuked because the Japanese spellings were different too, but the only difference was the LETTER. So, it's still possible that "Dis Soul" is just a manipulation of a "DiZ", so people can't just say "AHAHAH! Other people calling themselves DiZ exist."

Course the thread is a mess of arguments about who is what in terms of the Enigmatic Soldier battle. Sheesh.

Of course the good that came out of all the kerfluffle is the name Renoath. Take "X" out of Xehanort, and you've pretty much got that name since I can't imagine anyone being names Another or No Heart. Before the Dis Bruhaha came out, I thought that Xehanort may have already been a Nobody. Just that how can you lose your Heart AGAIN? Unless, he has multiple Hearts or a half one. Still, when Xehanort became a Nobody, he took Ansem's name and became who we all know. I guess he has some identity issues or he didn't want to be recognized as "Xehanort".

Blagh. I don't know, but I highly the "Dis" DIScussion is going away anytime soon.

Dis Soul again

Speculations continue in terms of who/what/where/when/why "DisSoul" is mentioned in the trailer. One of the theories over on the kh-vids forum is that a "Dis Soul" is a being without a soul. That is, someone who's SOUL was taken.

Uh-huh. Wouldn't that be a Heartless though? I was under the impression that the Heartless kept a "captive heart", and lacked a soul themselves. So, the "Heartless" was a being that was nothing more than a ball of instinct with no memories(. Nothing but a Heart and a Body. A "Nobody" would be the being that had a body and soul(the memories and incomplete emotions), but no Heart. So, a "Dis-Soul" should be a being that has NO body, but rather a Heart and a Soul. Sort of like a ghost or a Wil-O-Whisp.

But, if I'm wrong about a "Heartless", then a "Dis-Soul" would be a being with a Heart and a Body, but zippo memories and is still incomplete because of it. They would be searching, or chasing their corresponding Nobody. As in, the memories.

Hmmm...could Xehanort have been a "Dis Soul"? Heart, Body, but no memory, which would explain why he was so desperate to search for his own memories. Just that if simply having no memory means being a "Dis Soul", then someone with Alzheimer's or massive memory loss could be a "Dis Soul". Probably not though since it seems to me that the "Soul" carries some emotion, so the loss of it would mean the loss of memories and the more "negative" emotions or "simple" emotions. So, Xehanort's negative emotions were probably muted thanks to the loss of his soul. He did not like this very much, I guess, so he figured that by losing his "Heart", he would lose the more complex emotions(like, Romantic Love, which is always both a heaven and a hell) AND the positive emotions(like say, compassion).

I guess he figured that since his Heart was OMG strong, then he would end up with a new Soul as a Nobody(because of Xehanort's new memories), and through completion as a whole new person, he'd get his memories back, or something.

He did say himself that Anger and Hate reign supreme, and having a Heart would get in the way of that. Course if he is a "Dis Soul", then you have to wonder how he lost his original soul, so to speak and what the hell became of it?


I think it's best to go with Occam's Razor and say that "Dis Soul" simply means "this soul" as a way of referring to another person. Or, it's a ghost of some kind. I like my first theory better(simply someone consumed by revenge. DiZ Soul).

Planet Soul

Or, rather, "Dis-Soul". Kh-Vids unleashed the news this morning about some additions to the new trailer. Some people say that it's probably just "This Soul". Others say it could be something else. I'm thinking that it could "DiZ soul?" Like, Darkness in Zero Soul. Ansem the Wise called himself that when sealed in Darkness, but it could be possible that others might have also been trapped in Darkness, but used the same name since the concept was the same(Huuur! I rhyme). "Darkness in Zero". So, a "Diz Soul" would simply mean a soul/person/or whatever you want to call it this week trapped would be someone who shared Ansem the Wise's fate.

Who could it be? And how many have been sealed in this way? I haven't the foggiest, but it'd be confusing to see people being named the same thing. So, instead of just calling everyone "DiZ", they'd be considered another "DiZ Soul", only Ansem used the title as his name.

I know that Kingdom Hearts is supposed to be light hearted, but let's face it, revenge has always been a strong theme too, and I doubt Ansem the Wise was the only one who thirsted for it.